Sus puse en LEER MAS >>> un documento para que podais comparar entre los TRES dispositivos mas famosos del mercado (el Zune, El iPod G5 y el Creative Zen M). Asi podreis saber todas las «putaditas» que tienen cada uno y sus ayudaran a elegir. Ese fue el documento que a mi me decidio para comprar mi Zune (que conste que no cobro y menos de M$oft por decir esto).
Que sepais que ninguno hace de todo (sus dije que tengo 6, no? 🙂 ), pero con un par podeis salir bastante bien del paso. Yo antes usaba un iRiver (PMP-120) para todo, pero parece ser resulta que no vendieron mucho y los fabricantes lo descontinuaron y nunca mas sacaron actualizaciones de firmware con lo cual las ultimas moviez no rulan correctamente, pues no puedo poner una cosa tan simple como el codec XviD 1.1.2. Pero hasta hace unos 3 meses rulaba de maravilla, lo que como tenia un par de a? pues pesaba bastante y solo tenia 20 Gb…. eso si la bateria me duro un dia mas de 9 horas (oyendo todas las canciones de ABBA, sin usar la pantalla).
Pues ahora para salir del paso y llevar toda mi multimedia a mano, sin tener que abrir el laptop cada vez, pues para oir musica uso el Zune, y para ver moviez el Lyra X3030 (que si que actualizan el firmware) y se traga todo, hasta la nueva codficacion del DivX de Stage6. El Zune es facilisimo para elegir canciones, se nota la mano de M$oft en el software… el Lyra es algo mas complejo de manejar y el boton rueda que tiene es asqueroso, pero por todo lo que es capaz de «playar» vale la pena… y lo mejor que si no quieres usar la ruedecita de marras, como lleva mando a distancia, pues lo usas y punto… y ademas es conectable a la TV (NTSC y PAL) y hasta graba en digital lo que le echas (Mpeg 4 On The Fly). Aunque la ultima prueba que hice de conectar mi movil (Samsung t619) con cable al Lyra era curiosa, pues podia ver el contenido del HDD en el telefono y podia oirlo en mono (no drogado) con el Bluetooth. sus dije que se me acabo la bateria del BT en algo asi como 40 minutos?
Salu2
AngelosoEl documento original esta aqui:
http://dapreview.net/zune_vs_ipod_vs_zvm.html
Y aqui una copia por si desaparece…
| Attribute | Microsoft Zune | Apple iPod G5 | Creative Zen Vision: M |
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| Image Gallery | flickr | flickr | epiZENter flickr |
| Videos | Engadget YouTube |
CNET | YouTube GoogleVideo |
| Official Webpage | Zune.net | Apple.com | Creative.com |
| Reference info | Wikipedia | Wikipedia | Wikipedia |
| First Available | 2006-11-14 | Late October 2005 | Late January 2006 |
| Warranty | 1 year, limited. Details | 1 year, limited, from date of original purchase. Details | 1 year parts, 90 days labor, from date of original purchase. Details |
| Supported PC OS | Windows XP only | Windows XP and Macintosh, some older versions of Windows using 3rd party management software like Ephpod | Windows XP, Linux using libraries and apps that support MTP (libmtp, Gnomad) older versions of Windows using MTP drivers, more resources HERE (Microsoft). |
| Dimensions | 4.4 x 2.4 in 112 x 61mm |
4.1 x 2.4 in 104 x 61mm |
4.1 x 2.4 in 104 x 62 mm |
| Thickness | 0.6 in 15 mm |
0.43 or 0.55 in 11 or 14 mm |
0.73 or 0.87 in 19 or 22 mm |
| Weight | 5.6 ounces 159 g |
4.8 or 5.5 ounces 136 or 156 g |
5.7 or 6.3 ounces 163 or 178 g |
| Build materials | Plastic structure with a translucent rubber coating (scratch-resistant) | Polished steele base (easily scratchable), plastic face (easily scratchable) | Painted magnesium base (scratch-resistant), plastic face (easily scratchable) |
| ODM | Toshiba, based off of the Gigabeat S, with modifications specific to this model | Apple Computer | Creative Technology |
| Capacity (+ amount available to user) | 30gb (27.8gb) | 30gb (27.8gb) or 80gb | 30gb (27.8gb) or 60gb |
| Hard Drive | 1.8 inch, Toshiba, MK3008GAL | 1.8 inch Toshiba | 1.8 inch Toshiba |
| MSRP | $250 | $249 or $349 | $250 or $300 |
| Street Price (11-2006) | $250 Check Price | $240 Check Price | $230 Check Price |
| Included accessories | Earphones, Proprietary USB Cable, Pouch, Install CD | Earphones, Proprietary USB Cable, Dock adapter, Pouch, Quick Start guide, Install CD | Earphones, I/O Adapter (Mini Dock), standard USB cable, Pouch, User Guide, Install CD, USB Host dongle (60gb version only) |
| Attribute | Microsoft Zune | Apple iPod G5 | Creative Zen Vision: M |
| Basic accessories that are NOT included | AC adapter, AV cable | AC adapter, AV cable | AC adapter, AV cable (Note: original $330 retail pack did include an AC adapter, dropped in current retail packs) |
| Optional Accessories | List at Amazon |
List at Amazon |
List at Amazon |
| Available Colors | White, Black, Brown | White, Black, more options from 3rd parties like Colorware | White, Black, Lime, Baby Blue, Pink |
| Audio Playback | MP3, AAC, WMA, Protected WMA (from Zune Marketplace) | MP3, AAC, AAC with FairPlay DRM, Audible, Apple Lossless, AIFF, WAV | MP3, WMA, WMA with PlaysForSure DRM, Audible, WAV |
| Gapless Audio Playback (tested with LAME encoded MP3) | No, but gaps are typically less then a half second | Yes, after processing audio tracks with iTunes | No, but gaps are typically less then a half second |
| Adjustable Playback speed | No | Yes, Audible format only (Slower, Normal, Faster) | Yes, Videos only (3 steppings) |
| Supports OGG Vorbis, FLAC, or AC3 (for movies) | No | No, although OGG, FLAC and other codecs are possible using RockBox firmware | No |
| Supports Podcasts | Only MP3-based podcasts. Not directly supported in Zune software. No Podcast sorting on device | Yes, MP3 and AAC based Podcasts | Only MP3-based podcasts. Creative calls them ZenCasts, and has a site set up to facilitate them – ZenCast.com. No Podcast/Zencast sorting on device |
| Supports music subscription services | Yes, one – Zune Pass, $15 per month | No | Yes, many services using WMA PlaysForSure DRM like Napster, Yahoo Unlimited, Rhapsody, etc, at $5 to $15 per month |
| Supports online music stores | Yes, one – Zune Marketplace | Yes, one – iTunes Media Store | Yes, many – any service using WMA PlaysForSure DRM like Napster, Yahoo Unlimited, Rhapsody, etc |
| Supports online video stores | Yes, one – Zune Marketplace | Yes, one – iTunes Media Store | Yes, one – Amazon Unbox |
| Device pre-loaded with audio and video samples | Yes | No | Yes |
| Video Playback | WMV Main Profile (1.5Mbps peak bitrate) or WMV Simple Profile (736Kbps peak bitrate), each at a maximum of 320×240 pixels and 30fps, with WMA audio (stereo) at 192kbps max | H.264-LC (1.5Mbps peak bitrate) at maximum of 640×40 pixels, or H.264-BP (768kbps peak bitrate) at a maximum of 320×240 pixels, or MPEG-4 SP (2.5Mbps peak bitrate at maximum of 640×480 pixels), each at 30fps with AAC-LC audio up to 160kbps | WMV9, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG4-SP including DivX 4 & 5, XviD, Motion-JPEG |
| Video Settings | None | Widescreen on/off | Fit to screen, Stretch to full (does not maintain aspect ratio), Zoom to Full (maintaining aspect ratio), Original size |
| Video containers | .WMV | .M4V, .MP4, .MOV | .WMV, .AVI |
| Video Out to TV | Yes, with optional AV cable accessory, NTSC and PAL | Yes, with optional AV cable accessory, max 320 x 240 pixels, NTSC and PAL. Max resolution reportedly increased to 640×480 in recent firmware | Yes, with optional AV cable accessory, max 640 x 480 pixels, NTSC and PAL |
| Image Support | JPEG, maximum 640×480 pixel resolution. Other image formats and resolutions are converted via software when importing to device. | JPEG, maximum 320×240 pixel resolution. Other image formats and resolutions are converted via software when importing to device | JPEG, imported to device at full resolution with limitations: JPEG Baseline up to 16 megapixel, JPEG Progessive up to 4 megapixel. |
| Image viewing features | Zoom in and pan around inside the full size image | None | Rotate, Zoom in and pan around inside the full size image |
| Slideshow with Music | Yes, including a simple fade transition | Yes, including transitions with various forms of fade and wipe, page flip, swirl, 3D cube | Yes, including fade and wipe transitions |
| Attribute | Microsoft Zune | Apple iPod G5 | Creative Zen Vision: M |
| Slideshow Settings | Time per slide (3-30 seconds), Shuffle on/off | Time per slide (2-20 seconds), Music (Now Playing, on-the-go), Repeat on/off, Shuffle on/off, Transitions (set active type or random) | Slide interval, Slide transitions (set active type or random) |
| Album Art display during playback | Yes. Large image displayed next to track info, using more than 3/4 of the screen space | Yes. Small image displayed next to track info. Album images can be stored within the audio files | Yes. Small image displayed next to track info. Album images can be stored within the audio files or saved as folder.jpg in an album's folder on the hard drive |
| Audio file details available through the GUI | Track number, Title, Artist, Album, Track length (time) | Track number, Title, Artist, Album, Track length (time) | Track, Title, Artist, Album, Genre, Year, Track length (time), Play Count, Codec type, Bitrate, Sampling frequency |
| Video file details available through the GUI | File name, File date, Video length (time), description | None | File name, Video length (time) |
| Image file details available through the GUI | None | None | File name, Image size (dimensions), File size, Shot on (date), Flash |
| Controls | Hold switch, 5-way thumb-pad, Back button, Play-Pause button | Hold switch, touch-sensitive 4-way click-wheel with center Select button | On-off-hold switch, Back button, My Shortcut Button (custom function), Menu button, Play-Pause button, touch-sensitive vertical strip with left and right click action |
| Backlit Controls, Buttons | No | No | Yes |
| Dedicated Volume Controls | No | No | No |
| Headphone Power Output | 30 mW per channel (estimated) | 30 mW per channel | 30 mW per channel (estimated) |
| Volume Steppings | 20 | Appoximately 30 | 25 |
| Volume Limiter | No | Yes | Yes |
| Screen | 3.0 inch TFT LCD, 320×240 pixels, requires backlight to be viewable | 2.5 inch Transreflective LCD, 320×240 pixels, 65k colors, viewable with or without backlight | 2.5 inch TFT LCD, 320×240 pixels, 262k colors, requires backlight to be viewable |
| Useful Viewing Angles | Horizontal: +/- 160 degrees Vertical: +/- 160 degrees |
Horizontal: +/-160 degrees Vertical: +/- 160 degrees |
Horizontal: +/-160 degrees Vertical: + 70 degrees, – 20 degrees |
| Readable in sunlight? | Yes | Yes | No |
| Screen orientation | Portait for navigating the GUI and listeing to music, Landscape for videos and pictures | Landscape for all functions | Landscape for all functions |
| Display Settings | Brightness | Brightness, appoximately 30 steppings | Brightness (10% – 100%) |
| USB Standard | USB 2.0 High Speed | USB 2.0 High Speed | USB 2.0 High Speed |
| Hardware Interface | Proprietary Dock Connector | Proprietary Dock Connector | Proprietary Dock Connector, plus Mini-Dock that has standard mini-USB port, Video out jack, and power port (type C) |
| Built-in speaker | No | No, but has a minor noise maker (clicker) that sounds when scrolling through menus and lists | No, but has a minor noise maker (clicker) that sounds when scrolling through menus and lists |
| Hardware Reset | Yes, by holding the Back button and the center Select button on the thumbpad | by pressing a combination of buttons | Yes, through sticking a pin through the Reset hole |
| Battery | Internal, Lithium-ion, 3.7 V, 800mAh, Non-removeable | Internal, Lithium-ion, Non-removeable. Replacable through Apple for $59 | Internal, Lithium-ion, 3.7 V, 1250mAh, Non-removeable |
| Attribute | Microsoft Zune | Apple iPod G5 | Creative Zen Vision: M |
| Maximum Playback Time, MP3 audio at 128kbs | 14 hours | 14 hours (30gb) or 20 hours (80gb) | 14 hours (30gb) or 16 hours (60gb) |
| Maximum Playback Time, video | 4 hours | 3.5 hours (30gb), 6.5 hours (80gb) | 4 hours (30gb) or 5 hours (60gb) |
| Mass Storage Complient (aka UMS) | No | Yes | Yes, requires manual activation of Disk Mode through GUI |
| Import media to device via MTP | Yes, requires WinXP or MTP drivers for other OS | No | Yes, requires WinXP or MTP drivers for other OS |
| PC Software interface required to add media to device | Zune software | Apple iTunes or 3rd party software like WinAmp | WMP, Creative MediaSource, or Creative Media Explorer, or Windows Explorer (XP only) |
| Power Charging | via USB (or optional AC adapter, not included) | via USB (or optional AC adapter, not included) | via USB (or optional AC adapter, not included) |
| Remote control | Optional wireless remote, no LCD | Optional wired remote, no LCD, plugs into the dock connector port | Optional wired remote, no LCD, plugs into headphone jack |
| WiFi | Yes, 802.11 b/g transceiver. Function limited to transferring tracks and images to other Zune players. No web browser, online music store, email clients, etc | No | No |
| Direct player to player media transfers | Yes, audio and images only, one at a time, via WiFi. Can broadcast songs and photos to other Zunes within range. Received tracks are limited to 3 days or 3 plays (whichever comes first) before automatically becoming disabled (non-playable) | No | No |
| Transfer media from device back to PC (any) | Yes, requires Zune software, using a function called Reverse Sync | Yes, using 3rd party software or through Windows Explorer (although iTunes obfuscates file names on import). Not supported through iTunes | Yes, via Windows Explorer in WinXP or other OS with MTP drivers |
| Line-in Audio Recording | No | No | No |
| Video Recording | No | No | No |
| USB Host | No | No, but similiar functionality with optional accessory (Camera Connector) | Yes, 60gb model only |
| PIM Functions | No | Calander, Contacts List, To-Do List | Calander, Contacts List, Task List managed via PC software |
| Other Specialized Functions | Flag any track, image | Stopwatch | «Purchase this (song later)» available in the context menu while playing an audio track |
| Security features | No | Screen Lock function, can set a 4-digit code to lock device | Protected Content, set 4-digit password |
| Text View | No | Yes, standard TXT files can be placed in Notes folder (file size limit?) | No |
| Games | No | Yes, some included (Brick, Music Quiz, Parachute, Solitaire), additional games are optional, available only through iTunes Store | No |
| Customizable Main Menu | No | Yes | Yes, set any image as the background used throughout the GUI |
| Attribute | Microsoft Zune | Apple iPod G5 | Creative Zen Vision: M |
| Customizable Wallpaper | Yes, set any image as the background used throughout the GUI | No | Yes |
| Customizable Themes (GUI) | Yes, 3 preset themes | No | Yes, 6 preset themes |
| Customizable Controls | No | No | Yes, My Shortcut Button can be assigned to any screen or function for direct access. Also, sensitivity of touch-strip controller is adjustable (low, medium, high) |
| Custom message burned into body of device | No | Yes, option to laser-etch a message into back of device at time of purchase from Apple.com | No |
| EQ | EQ Presets only, 7 | EQ Presets only, 22 | 5-band Custom EQ and 8 presets |
| DSP modes | None | None | Smart Volume (normalizer), Bass Boost |
| Media rating system | 1-5 stars for Music | 1-5 stars for Music, Photos | 1-5 stars for Music, Photos |
| Voice Recording | No | Not with the native hardware. Yes, with optional accessories, including full GUI support with Apple brand recording accessory. 22khz mono and 44khz stereo recording modes | Yes, has built-in mic, records to ADPCM at 16khz, mono. Input meters displayed |
| FM Radio | Yes, including RDS data, autoscan, save presets | Not with the native hardware. Yes, with optional accessories, including full GUI support with Apple brand radio accessory | Yes, 87.5 – 108 Mhz in 100 Khz steppings, autoscan, 32 presets, can name radio stations with alphanumeric text entry on device |
| Radio Record | No | No | Yes, with original firmware, as 22khz WAV file. Feature was removed from some firmware versions but it is included in the latest firmware v.1.60.01. Read |
| Clock | No | Yes | Yes |
| Alarm Clock | No | Yes, beep using clicker speaker (fairly quiet) | Yes, Schedule: once or daily, Audio: FM radio or random track |
| Sleep Timer | No | Yes | Yes, 15-120 minutes |
| Languages | English. No language selection through GUI | Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Simplified Chinese, Spanish, Swedish, Traditional Chinese, and Turkish. Also, Bulgarian, Croatian, Romanian, Serbian, Slovak, Slovenian, and Ukrainian for display of track information (tags) only | English, Portuguese, Danish, German, Spanish, French, Italian, Dutch, Norwegian, Finnish, Swedish, Japanese, Korean, Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Russian |
| Audio Organization | Catagorical lists (Artists, Albums, Tracks, Genre) based on metadata tags from each audio file. Stored in a database on the device. Updated by Zune software when tracks are added or removed from device | Catagorical lists (Artists, Albums, Tracks, Genre, Year, Podcasts, Composer) based on metadata tags from each audio file. Stored in a database on the device. Updated by iTunes software when tracks are added or removed from device | Catagorical lists (Artists, Albums, Tracks, Genre) based on metadata tags from each audio file. Stored in a database on the device. Updated by WMP or other management software when tracks are added or removed from device. Also a Recording catagory for voice and radio recordings. |
| Image Organization | Create image albums using Zune software. Pages full of image thumbnails are displayed when an album is selected on the device | Create image albums using iTunes software. Pages full of image thumbnails are displayed when an album is selected on the device | All folders on the hard drive containing images are displayed on the device. Create new albums using Windows Explorer. Pages full of image thumbnails are displayed when a folder is selected on the device |
| Attribute | Microsoft Zune | Apple iPod G5 | Creative Zen Vision: M |
| Video Organization | Movies, Music Videos, All Videos. Zune software assigns which group a video goes in. Not user-selectable, however 3rd party apps like TigoTago can be used to edit metadata in the video files so that they can be listed in a particular catagory | Movies, Music Videos, Video Podcasts | Video, TV, Recently browsed |
| File-folder tree based media navigation through the GUI | No | No, although you can using RockBox firmware | No, only for images |
| Text Search for media in device library via GUI | No | Yes, via alphanumeric text entry | Yes, via alphanumeric text entry |
| Manage physical organization of media on device's hard drive via files and folders in Windows Explorer | No, Zune software handles physical organization of media fil
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